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Ann FORREST
Cotton Weaver of Mellor, Lancashire
Alternative names
Mary Ann FORREST (Secondary)
Ann NIGHTINGALE (Married)
Ancestors
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Unknown FORREST
~1754 - ~1804
William FORREST
1795 - 1844
Brick maker of Blackburn, Lancashire
 
Ann FORREST
1825 - 1888
Cotton Weaver of Mellor, Lancashire
 
A Private Individual
Spouses and Descendants
Generations
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Ann FORREST
1825 - 1888
Cotton Weaver of Mellor, Lancashire
  m. Thomas NIGHTINGALE (1826 - 1877)
 
Margaret Alice NIGHTINGALE
1858 - ~1919
Cotton Weaver of Blackburn, Lancashire
Rachel NIGHTINGALE
1861 - ~1921
Cotton Weaver of Blackburn, Lancashire
John Thomas NIGHTINGALE
1869 - ~1925
Cotton Weaver of Blackburn, Lancashire
Narrative and Notes

It is thought that Ann FORREST was the sister of Ellen FORREST born 1821 and the half-sister of James FORREST (c.1833-1889), although this is not yet confirmed.

The current narrative is that Ellen and Ann were both baptized by William and Mary FORREST, albeit not in the same church or necessarily born in the same place, although the records point towards the family living near Samlesbury and Balderstone/Mellor. Mary died in 1826, and William FORREST married Nancy ELLISON in 1832. James was born in 1833, but no baptism has been found. The facts are as follows:

Having worked through possible deaths, marriages and census records, there is only one narrative for an Ann FORREST in Blackburn supported by the available evidence. Fortunately, the evidence ties in with the location, and with her father being called William, lending it some credibility.

On Christmas Day 1849, 'Mary Ann' FORREST married Thomas NIGHTINGALE at St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn. Thomas was a boatman, as was his father, Joseph. Ann's father was William FORREST, a weaver. Neither Thomas nor 'Mary Ann' were able to sign their names. The witnesses were church officials who regularly witnessed proceedings.

Two years later in 1851 'Ann' is living in Barcroft Street, Blackburn, aged 24, born Mellor9 with Thomas, a 'coak burner'. By 1861, they were at 14 Pickup Street, where he was a boatman again, 34, born Adlington, with 'Mary Ann', aged 33, and daughters Margaret A, 3, and Rachael, 27. In 1871, they were at 8 Ingham Street, he a labourer, '50', born Chorley (3 miles from Adlington), and 'Mary A', '50', was a cotton weaver with daughters Margaret 13 and Rachel 9, and John T 1, and a female border6. In 1881, she was widowed and living at 13 Inkerman Street, with daughters Margaret A, 23, Rachel, 20, and son, John T, aged 11, all cotton weavers8.

Mary Ann NIGHTINGALE died in Blackburn R.D. Q1 1888, aged 62.

The main issue with the above is the name 'Mary Ann', although in 1851 she was simply 'Ann' which is consistent with her almost being 'Ann' in 1841. Furthermore there is no record of a Mary Ann FORREST being baptized in Blackburn by her father William FORREST (between 1820-1830), (although a Mary FORREST was baptized by William and Betty FORREST in 1825).

Her father William, in 1849, was a weaver - not a brick-maker - but as noted in William's notes, the brick-making industry only took-off in the 1850s, so this might just be a matter of timing.

Timeline
Personal Family World
Date
Age*
Event
Place
1825
0
Birth 
Mellor, Lancashire
18 Sep 1825
0
Baptism 
Balderstone, Lancashire
7 Jun 1841
15
query Caution: Recorded age does not match calculated age (16).
Census 
 

 
11
Wagtail, Duke's Brow, Blackburn, , Lancashire, England
21 Oct 1844
19
Death of father William FORREST 
 

It is not clear that this death certificate relates to this William FORREST.

 
12
Blackburn, Lancashire
25 Dec 1849
24
Marriage to husband Thomas NIGHTINGALE 
St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
30 Mar 1851
24
query Caution: Recorded age does not match calculated age (26).
Census 
Barcroft Street, Blackburn, , Lancashire, England
13 Apr 1854
29
Marriage of half brother James FORREST and Caroline Elizabeth ARCHIBALD 
1516
Saint Mary, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Q3 1858
33
Birth of daughter Margaret Alice NIGHTINGALE 
17
Blackburn, Lancashire
7 Apr 1861
33
query Caution: Recorded age does not match calculated age (36).
Census 
14 Pickup Street, Blackburn, , Lancashire, England
Q2 1861
36
Birth of daughter Rachel NIGHTINGALE 
19
Blackburn, Lancashire
18 Dec 1869
44
Birth of son John Thomas NIGHTINGALE 
 

Later called Withers Street

 
21
Wythaws Street, Higher Audley, Blackburn, Lancashire
2 Apr 1871
50
query Caution: Recorded age does not match calculated age (46).
Census 
8 Ingham Street, Blackburn, , Lancashire, England
frm 1871 to 1881
46
Occupation: Cotton Weaver 
Blackburn, Lancashire
2 Apr 1871
50
query Caution: Recorded age does not match calculated age (46).
Census 
8 Ingham Street, Blackburn, , Lancashire, England
Q2 1877
52
Death of husband Thomas NIGHTINGALE 
25
Blackburn R.D., Lancashire
3 Apr 1881
55
query Caution: Recorded age does not match calculated age (56).
Census 
13 Inkerman Street, Blackburn, , Lancashire, England
Q1 1888
62
query Caution: Recorded age does not match calculated age (63).
Death 
27
Blackburn R.D., Lancashire
5 Dec 1889
64
Death of half brother James FORREST 
28
The Infirmary, Blackburn, Lancashire
Documented age, Calculated age, Estimated age
Citations
1 - UK 1871 Census - 2nd April 1871
2 - UK 1861 Census - 7th April 1861
3 - UK 1881 Census - 3rd April 1881
4 - UK 1851 Census - 30th March 1851
5 - St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn Parish Records
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6 - UK 1871 Census - 2nd April 1871
7 - UK 1861 Census - 7th April 1861
8 - UK 1881 Census - 3rd April 1881
9 - UK 1851 Census - 30th March 1851
10 - Balderston, St Leonard, Parish Records
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BAPTISMS solemnized in the Chapel of Balderston in the County of County in the YEAR 1825

When Baptized

Child's Christian Name

Parent's Name.

Christian

Parent's Name.

Surname

Abode

Quality, Trade or Profession

By whom the Ceremony was performed

Sep 18

1825

No.

Ann

Daughter of

William

& Mary

Forrest

Mellor

Weaver

T Exton

Curate

11 - UK 1841 Census - 7th June 1841

Note: Ages of adults were often rounded down to nearest 5 years. For example, a recorded age of 25 implies an age of between 25 and 29.

Parish or Township of Blackburn

Wagtail

William Forrest - 65 - Cotton weaver - Y

James Forrest - 35 - Cotton weaver - Y

Ann Forrest - 15 - Cotton weaver - Y

James Forrest - 9 - Cotton weaver - Y

12 - UK General Registry Office Death Certificate
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Superintendent Registrar's District Blackburn

Registrar's District Towship of Blackburn

1845 DEATHS in the District of Blackburn in the County of Lancaster

No.

When Died

Name and Surname

Sex

Age

Rank or Profession

Cause of Death

Signature, Description and Residence of Informant

When Registered

Signature of Registrar

432

Twenty first of October 1844

Blackburn

William Forrest

Male

49 yrs

a Warper

Drowning

J Hargreaves

Coroner Blackburn

Ninth of May 1845

Joseph Fairbrother

Registrar

13 - St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn Parish Records
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14 - UK 1851 Census - 30th March 1851
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15 - UK General Registry Office Marriage Certificate
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1854 Marriage solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Blackburn in the County of Lancaster

No: 22

When married - 13th April 1854

Name and Surname - Age - Condition - Rank or Profession - Residence at the time of marriage - Father's name and surname - Rank or Profession of father

James Forrest - 20 - Bachelor - Piecer - Blackburn - William Forrest - Brickmaker

Elizabeth Archibold - 20 - Spinster - - Blackburn - Robert Archibold - Plasterer

Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church by ___ or after Banns by me E:A:Lang

This marriage was solemnized between us: James Forrest's + mark, Elizabeth Archibold's + mark in the Presence of us, John Pilkington, Thomas Livesey

16 - St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn Parish Records
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17 - England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index 1837-1915

NIGHTINGALE, MARGARET ALICE FORREST |

GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 271

18 - UK 1861 Census - 7th April 1861
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19 - England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index 1837-1915

NIGHTINGALE, RACHEL FORREST |

GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 307

20 - UK 1871 Census - 2nd April 1871
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21 - St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn Parish Records
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22 - UK 1871 Census - 2nd April 1871
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23 - UK 1871 Census - 2nd April 1871
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24 - UK 1871 Census - 2nd April 1871
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25 - England & Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007 and United Kingdom Deaths 2007-2017

NIGHTINGALE, THOMAS 51 |

GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 245

26 - UK 1881 Census - 3rd April 1881
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27 - England & Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007 and United Kingdom Deaths 2007-2017

NIGHTINGALE, MARY ANN 62 |

GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 299

28 - UK General Registry Office Death Certificate
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Superintendent Registrar's District BLACKBURN

Registrar's Sub-District Blackburn Southern

1889 DEATHS in the Sub-District of Blackburn Southern in the County of Blackburn

No - When and where died - Sex - Age - Occupation - Cause of death - Signature, description and residence of informant - When registered - Signature of registrar

97 - Fifth December 1889 The Infirmary Blackburn U.S.D - James Forrest - Male - 54 years - Cotton Spinner of 42 Primrose Hill Blackburn - Bronchitis Certified by J Wheatly M.B. - John Forrest Son 42 Primrose Hill Blackburn - Sixth December 1889 - Richard Henry Catterall Registrar

Dec 1889 Blackburn 08E 304