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John JOY
Husbandman of Burnsall, Yorkshire
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John JOY
~1679 - ~1767
Husbandman of Burnsall, Yorkshire
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John JOY
~1679 - ~1767
Husbandman of Burnsall, Yorkshire
  m. Margaret BURNETT (bap.1686 - 1739)
 
Thomas JOY
bap.1713 - ~1763
of Thorpe Willoughby, Yorkshire
Robert JOY
bap.1716 - ~1766
of Thorpe Willoughby, Yorkshire
James JOY
bap.1719 - bur.1772
Lead miner of Thorpe, Skipton, Yorkshire
  m. Elisabeth JACKMAN (bap.1722 - ~1781)
 
James JOY
bap.1741 - ~1806
Lead miner of High Hardcastle, Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire
  m. Mary MANGHAM (bap.1739 - bur.1771)
  m. Sarah JOW (bap.1738 - ~1805)
 
John JOY
bap.1762 - ~1812
of High Hardcastle, Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire
Nancy JOY
bap.1764 - ~1814
of High Hardcastle, Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire
Mary JOY
bap.1766 - bur.1767
of High Hardcastle, Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire
James JOY
bap.1773 - ~1833
Lead and coal miner of Craven Kell, Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire
  m. Elizabeth SIMPSON (bap.1773 - ~1833)
 
Patty JOY
bap.1795 - ~1845
of Greenhow Hill, Yorkshire
Michael JOY
1797 - 1805
of Rothwell, Yorkshire
Hannah 'Ann' JOY
1800 - 1876
of Lofthouse, Wakefield, Yorkshire
  m. John NEWBOULD (1797 - 1866)
 
James NEWBOULD
~1820 - ~1891
of Lofthouse, Wakefield, Yorkshire
  m. Hannah [NEWBOULD] (~1824 - ~1893)
 
Mary NEWBOULD
~1846 - ~1904
of Lofthouse, Wakefield, Yorkshire
Jane NEWBOULD
~1850 - ~1906
of Lofthouse, Wakefield, Yorkshire
Dobson NEWBOULD
~1855 - ~1908
of Lofthouse, Wakefield, Yorkshire
Alice NEWBOULD
~1856 - ~1909
of Lofthouse, Wakefield, Yorkshire
Joe NEWBOULD
~1859 - ~1910
of Lofthouse, Wakefield, Yorkshire
Mary NEWBOULD
~1823 - ~1900
of Carlton, Lofthouse, Yorkshire
  m. John WHITHAM (~1820 - ~1885)
 
James WHITHAM
~1845 - ~1898
of Leeds, Yorkshire
Hannah WHITHAM
~1848 - ~1900
of Methley, Yorkshire
Emma WHITHAM
~1852 - ~1902
of Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire
Elizabeth WHITHAM
~1857 - ~1907
of Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire
Matilda WHITHAM
~1864 - ~1914
of Stanley Cum Wrenthorpe, Yorkshire
Esther NEWBOULD
bap.1827 - ~1884
of Rothwell, Yorkshire
Charlotte NEWBOULD
bap.1829 - ~1879
of Rothwell, Yorkshire
John NEWBOULD
bap.1833 - ~1902
Coal miner of Rothwell, Yorkshire
  m. Jane [NEWBOULD] (~1834 - ~1903)
 
Matilda NEWBOULD
~1846 - ~1909
of Royds Green, Rothwell, Yorkshire
Clara NEWBOULD
~1859 - ~1915
of Lee Moor, Stanley, Yorkshire
Fred NEWBOULD
~1861 - ~1916
of Lee Moor, Stanley, Yorkshire
Albert NEWBOULD
~1862 - ~1917
of Lee Moor, Stanley, Yorkshire
Walton NEWBOULD
~1863 - ~1917
of Lee Moor, Stanley, Yorkshire
Jane Ann NEWBOULD
~1866 - ~1919
of Lee Moor, Stanley, Yorkshire
Ada NEWBOULD
~1869 - ~1920
of Lee Moor, Stanley, Yorkshire
John Oliver NEWBOULD
1870 - ~1921
of Royds Green, Rothwell, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Ann NEWBOULD
1831 - 1897
General servant of Lofthouse, Wakefield, Yorkshire
  m. Henry TURNER (1831 - 1910)
 
William TURNER
~1854 - ~1913
of Lofthouse, Wakefield, Yorkshire
Mary TURNER
1857 - 1907
Servant of Methley, Yorkshire
  m. William BEEVERS (1857 - 1911)
 
Sarah Elizabeth BEEVERS
~1878 - ~1940
Packer (stationery) of Leeds, Yorkshire
Fred BEEVERS
1880 - ~1945
Electrician of Lincoln, Lincolnshire
Eleanor BEEVERS
1884 - 1940
Cinema cashier of Leicester, Leicestershire
  m. Randolph SCOTT (1885 - 1950)
 
Randolph SCOTT
1905 - 1910
of Everton, Lancashire
Edna May SCOTT
1908 - 1994
Cotton Weaver (Part time) of Everton, Lancashire
  m. John 'Jack' FORREST (1907 - 1972)
 
Firth Scott FORREST
1937 - 1937
of Blackburn, Lancashire
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Mona Irene SCOTT
1912 - 1914
of Everton, Lancashire
Edith Annie SCOTT
1915 - 1916
of Blackburn, Lancashire
Sarah Elizabeth TURNER
~1859 - ~1915
of Methley, Yorkshire
Hannah TURNER
~1867 - ~1924
Coal miner of Methley, Yorkshire
Henrietta TURNER
1870 - 1874
of Allerton Bywater, Yorkshire
Henry TURNER
~1872 - ~1932
of Castleford, Yorkshire
Alfred TURNER
~1876 - ~1934
of Castleford, Yorkshire
Emma Jane NEWBOULD
1835 - ~1893
of Yorkshire
Joseph NEWBOULD
bap.1837 - ~1839
of Stanley, Yorkshire
Anne NEWBOULD
1841 - ~1906
of Stanley, Yorkshire
Joseph 'Joe' NEWBOULD
1847 - ~1909
Coal miner of Royds Green, Rothwell, Yorkshire
Betty JOY
1802 - ~1852
of Rothwell, Yorkshire
Elisabeth JOY
1805 - 1809
of Rothwell, Yorkshire
Harriott JOY
1811 - ~1861
of Rothwell, Yorkshire
Amelia JOY
bap.1814 - ~1864
of Rothwell, Yorkshire
Mary JOY
bap.1817 - ~1867
of Rothwell, Yorkshire
Mary JOY
bap.1780 - ~1830
of Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire
Michael JOY
bap.1783 - bur.1784
of Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire
Mary JOY
bap.1743 - ~1793
of Greenhow Hill, Yorkshire
Anne JOY
bap.1744 - ~1794
of Greenhow Hill, Yorkshire
William JOY
bap.1723 - ~1773
of Thorpe Willoughby, Yorkshire
Narrative and Notes

John was a husbandman from "Thorpe", Yorkshire. "Thorpe" is a small village to the west of Burnsall, but is also the name of the district the west of Burnsall in which the village lies. He baptized James JOY in Burnsall in 1719.

It appears that there were several John JOYs active in and around Burnsall in the early 18th century, two of which were from Thorpe and who might have been James' father. Two other John JOYs were from Hartlington to the east of Burnsall.

The facts are:

There are two marriages in Burnsall prior to James' baptism in 1719:

- 1702/3 John JOY and Elizabeth HEBDEN, 16 Jun

- 1712 John JOY and Margaret BURNETT of Linton, 27 Jul. Margaret, wife of John JOY of Thorp Hall was buried in Burnsall on 28 Sep 1739. Thorpe Hall is in the village of Thorpe.

Additionally, a John JOY senior of Thorpe, of the parish of Linton, day labourer, married Isabell ELVDY/ELUDY/EWDY of Burnsall in Burnsall on 3 Oct 1728. She died in Jun 1732. The same John JOY senior of Thorpe of the Parish of Linton Widower Day labourer married Mary WRATHALL of Thorpe of the parish of Burnsall, spinster, in Burnsall on 2 Oct 1732." This can't be the same John JOY who married Margaret BURNETT, because she was alive until 1739. Being called John JOY senior suggests that he already had a son called John in 1728.

Baptisms in Burnsall present a similar picture. Based on the entries in the parish records there appear to be three John JOYs baptizing children in Burnsall during this period. If you divide the children based on recorded abode of the fathers then the births would be as follows.

John JOY of Thorpe

- Thomas 1689

- Susan 1692 (Linton)

- Elizabeth 1695 (Linton)

- John 1701 (Linton)

John JOY of Appletreewick, (and Elizabeth HEBDEN?) baptized:

- Thomas 1703/4 (place not specified)

- Mary 1705

- John 1707

- William 1710

- Anne 1715

John JOY of Thorpe, husbandman, (and Margaret BURNETT?) baptized:

- Thomas 1713

- Robert 1716

- James 1719

- William 1723

John JOY, yeoman of Ram's Close, Hartlington, Appletreewick

- Thomas 1724

- Elizabeth 1725

- John & Mary, twins, 1729 (both died in 1729)

- Anthony 1731 (died in 1731)

- Ann 1734

- Thomas 1740

No children of John JOY senior, day labourer of Linton and his wives have been identified. He could theoretically be the father of John b.1701, but he would have been in his 50s when he married Isabell ELUDY and Mary WRATHALL in 1729 and 1732 which as a day labourer would have been quite a feat, unless he was the pensioner buried in 1750/1 in which case he may have had a settled income. Perhaps he had been a soldier, although no evidence of this has been found.

John's wife Margaret died before him in 1739.

The following burials confirm three of the above John JOYs:

- 1743 John JOY of Applewick, yeoman, buried 27 Aug 1743

- 1750/1 John JOY of Thorp pensioner buried 15 Feb 1750/1

- 1751 John JOY of Appletreewick yeoman buried 27 Oct 1751

There is only one baptism of a John JOY: John the son of Christopher JOY 21 Jul 1695, which is too late to be James' father.

Timeline
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Date
Age*
Event
Place
1712
33
Residence 
Burnsall, Yorkshire
Occupation: Husbandman 
 
27 Jul 1712
33
Marriage to wife Margaret BURNETT 
1
Burnsall, Yorkshire
1 Dec 1713
34
Baptism of son Thomas JOY 
2
Burnsall, Yorkshire
11 Nov 1716
37
Baptism of son Robert JOY 
3
Burnsall, Yorkshire
25 Jul 1719
39
Baptism of son James JOY 
4
Burnsall, Yorkshire
11 Aug 1723
44
Baptism of son William JOY 
5
Burnsall, Yorkshire
Sep 1739
60
Death of wife Margaret BURNETT 
Thorpe Willoughby, Yorkshire
aft 1739
60
Death 
 
6 May 1740
60
Marriage of son James JOY and Elisabeth JACKMAN 
6
Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire
31 Mar 1772
92
Burial of son James JOY 
7
Pateley Bridge, Yorkshire
Documented age, Calculated age, Estimated age
Citations
1 - Burnsall Parish Records

Weddings in the Year 1712

John Joy of ye parish of Burnsall and Margarett Burnett of ye parish of Linton } July ye 27th

2 - Burnsall Parish Records

Thomas ye son of John Joy of Thorpe bapt December the first day

3 - Burnsall Parish Records

Robert The son of John Joy Junior Thorpe baptized November 11

4 - Burnsall Parish Records

More Baptisms 1719

James the Son of John Joy of Thorpe Husbandman was baptized - - July ye 25

5 - Burnsall Parish Records

William the son of John Joy Junr of Thorpe Husbandman was baptized - - August ye 11th

6 - Pateley Bridge Parish Records

Marriages 1740 May

6th James Joy & Elisabeth Jackman both of this Parochial by Publication by me J Patterson

7 - Pateley Bridge Parish Records

Funerals 1772

James Joy Senior of Greenhowhill March ye 31st